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Kryptogal (Kate, if you like)'s avatar

Ug. Well, I can't lie, reading this makes me want to get a divorce, surround myself with cats and dogs and trees and books the rest of my life, and possible start advocating for major male-specific eugenics to at least improve half the species. But ultimately, I can't argue that I came to all of these same conclusions long ago. I just don't think about them the way I don't think about death and rotting and slaughterhouses and animals being eaten alive by other animals every day.

But since you think all the "solutions" of the radfems are either unworkable or laughable, how does this one strike you? It formed some of the plot of a fantasy novel I once started and then got bored of. You note men are necessary for physical labor and maintenance, but really that's only like maybe a quarter of guys that do that stuff, especially since they only do it a portion of their lives. You also correctly note men are responsible for most innovations, but that's an even tinier portion, like less than 1%. Could not women just let men live together in barracks doing their guy things, and their jobs would be the physical labor stuff, and women would live in and manage society, since they seem to be much more interested it? Let the guys do whatever it is they want to do in their barracks...play video games, sports, whatever. Do men really care that much about gardens and nice houses and the arts and office and caring and service jobs, otherwise? I always hear they basically just do that stuff for women. So then the trade-off is that the women get to live in society having it be nice and safe and pretty and not having to worry about men at all, bc the men are locked into their barracks at night, but the trade off to keep the men happy and not trying to leave is that the young women all trade off and as their civil service they each have to go have sex with the men like twice a month or something. So the men would get as many women as they want, sexually, the women would only have to put up with them two nights a month for 20 years, and otherwise no one would need to demand or expect anything from anyone. The problem here is we would still want scientists and innovators, but I think you could easily identify those boys, who are rare enough, in childhood and take them out of the standard male system and put them in schooling and labs and research where they'd be happy. I guess you could either treat them as sort of a priestly class. I don't think you'd even have to educate the other men much, since most don't seem to naturally like school anyway. And if there are "extra" males or some not living up and contributing...well, the other men in the barracks can figure that out amongst themselves and decide what they want to do with them. The boys would go into barracks land around age 8 or 9.

I don't think men or women on average would be less happy with this system. What do you think? Just trying to be creative! 😉

I disagree with your gender segregation thing because that's what's already happening online as you note, and it's just making men and women hate each other more. They did not get along that great in the past either. There was a short golden age for a few decades where they began integrating but before the internet allowed them both to see exactly what the other is doing when they're "alone", and they got a long quite well in that era. But now everyone knows too much. Also, the segregation thing doesn't work for me personally because I generally prefer or at least towards conversing with men...I just have to constantly suppress thinking about the facts.

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Fully-developed secondary sex characteristics absent any premature development disorder <> pedophilia.

That doesn’t mean the relationship isn’t abusive, especially when there’s a sizable age difference.

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